Australia is pretty great, I am not surprised you miss it! But its like I've always maintained since the vote happened is that lots of people voted Brexit for many complex reasons. Think beautiful places in Scotland, stunning beaches in Cornwall and romantic places in England. Because you don't seem to have widen your horizons much We truly hope you stay in the UK because Europe is so much better off without people like you. Bradford, Calderdale, Kirklees, Leeds, and Wakefield all contribute to this high level of crime, and violence and sexual offenses are prevalent crimes, with over 100,000 crimes reported each year. My Mum is a immigrant from the EU & has shared all the experiences you have pointed out, which too makes me rethink the perception of the country Ive always lived in. We would love to rent a car and drive for hours. But that does not justify mass immigration, and I say mass immigration because I am in favour of short immigration of few people and more controlled. Sorry for the belated reply. Would you come and live in the UK or would you rather take the road somewhere warmer? [27] Use of the term 'chav' was reported in The Guardian in 2011 as "class abuse by people asserting superiority". Many people don't have a voice but you gave them a voice. This brings me to the last point, which is safety. Too many people taking out, not enough putting in enough. How people can be close-minded in their views of the world. "Chav hang outs include an old fisherman's shed in the harbour and a derelict caravan in a field near the eastern end of the village. I found it very difficult to make friends in London. Nicer weather, a little more affordable than London, and here I feel home (although I'm not from here originally). It's amazing really. We have been in the UK for almost 3 years now and even bought a house, but we never truly felt welcome. I understand and appreciate your opinions. Then with what happened in UK last summer, it saddens me that those who come and fight the hardest to work and stay in the country are the ones to leave. And since the article is not about this, I'm going to refrain from further comments. The level of racism in Continental European football matches for example is shocking. So, the tribalism, is everywhere in the world and the UK is still one of the most open and tolerant countries in the world. I wish you all the luck. As a lower class Brit I can honestly say that I too am starting to feel unsafe here. P.S. That's not scenically possible. And it was because of these bright minds that I chose to become British too. Fantastic article. Alas, we did it! ), and the always fast pace. To give an idea of the divide on the Brexit vote night my Italian neighbours who I had never met before invited me around for a party so I was getting drunk with about 15 Italians before we found out the result. However, the same entitlement is NOT true for Brits going to EU countries who are in many countries, treated like second class citizens with no rights and slave labour if they can find a job. Build more houses they say but where? "Chav" (/tv/), also "charver", "scally" and "roadman" in parts of England, is a British term, usually used in a pejorative way. Leave a comment below. Rail fares have seen a huge increase since I studied in the UK from 2013-2014 to now, and it's just so prohibitively expensive to get anywhere unless you have a car or are willing to fly from the north to the south or vice versa. Hi Brian, thank you for your insightful message. James, why are you in Germany if you hate the EU so much? Why? People speak various languages. The continuous media obsession of crisis after crisis perpetuates the problem. As a people, we valued science and education and over time made the education of our children a major priority which further consolidated our industrial power. Yet, almost 9 Million (!) Something that would not be possible in my home country (Germany) to that extend. We have a shitty secondary education system and a generation of younger people who think that the world owes them something. I can cook Cantonese, Japanese (my favourite), Thai, Indian, French, Italian, Spanish and what not! We were both European expats who came here to study. As I said before, once you leave home, settle, then leave home again, the word "home" becomes so relative, elusive almost. But obviously you're biased because you're an immigrant so you're never gonna understand me. Cory, thanks for your article. Many of them, in fact. I came to the UK probably at the same time when you came and I mostly agree with the change that has happened to this country. I've always lived here and there's lots to be grateful for but well, I find it just a little bit depressing. I don't know anymore. we loved what we saw but the thing is that i feel Its not safe for us right know and Its messy with all this brexit thing. We have such moderate weather that it poses the least threat to life of anywhere in the world. Think carefully. move to New Zealand ,great place to live Dave from Hull. Ive come across your blog and found it heartbreaking that youve been made to feel this way in great Britain. For all these things we really really really love the UK: low taxation, laissez faire and flexibility/open-mindness of the British (especially the English ) people in business and life is refreshing. In Germany I have never felt discriminated against as a foreigner. I've lived in both. The UK gets judged to a higher standard than other countries because of our history. We love ourselves enough to leave the place and never look back ;), Sarah, you are my hero! No offence, but millennials tend to romanticise the far left. We came third in the Olympics. There's only one thing Brits love more than telling people how great their home towns are, and that's complaining about their home towns. Dear Emma, I am glad you found your way in the world. Everyone did something about it. Hi Rachel, I hope your move will go well. The nationalistic movement in the western world is unacceptable and it is far too easy for politicians to get away with pointing the finger at easy scapegoats while they fuel their own selfish agenda with taxpayer money. Sadly, the internet is full of these instances so there isn't much point me going through them. SO MANY of them. Anyone who would kick you out for "bad spelling" must be crazy. We're in North Yorkshire and we absolutely love it here. Plus I wouldn't want to negate your experience anyway. In any case the more I travel the more I learn and I have met so many great people over the years who are prepared to look beyond where one comes from. There are a lot of pros and cons when it comes to living in the UK and for the sake of objectivity, I would like to tackle all points in this article. I'm British. I find this so interesting because I would have never expected to learn these things about Canada. It is dangerous to assume that all British people are racists. I love nature and feel now that I am always inside wasting my life away. They were all British born northern lads from the small towns around the city. Anyway, I hope you come back. Please do not come back. The word chav is a relatively new one in British English, used to describe a supposed social group defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "a young person of a type characterised by brash and loutish behaviour and the wearing of designer-style clothes usually with connotations of a low social status". We're fed up with the extortionate rents for crappy flats, awful food (although the British think they have the best cuisine in the world now, but then, they think they're the best at everything), Brexit animosity towards foreigners, holier than thou, superior attitude, poor social rights for citizens (British retirees get the worst pension in Europe), expensive schools, expensive everything, really stupid TV, bad weather and the list goes on. No, they make a very fair point. Kind Regards. If you have good infrastructure, it costs money to build and maintain it. It gets to you when you realise you can't buy t-shirts because, in reality, you need sweaters, thermals and raincoats. Did I? A spokeswoman said, "With slogans from characters in shows such as Little Britain and The Catherine Tate Show providing us with more and more contemporary slang, our "Whatever" sweets now nicknamed chav hearts have become very popular with kids and grown-ups alike. Now back to Italy and relaxed. Agreed! Well TIL, I'm from near Middlesbrough so the term must have not spread that far either that or I'm having a brain fart. [8], The word in its current pejorative usage is recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary as first used in a Usenet forum in 1998 and first used in a newspaper in 2002. Eg. This also means that, in order to actually enjoy real life (not some kind of manufacturt-pre-organised and structured activity), you have to either walk on the coasts or on the morland (a bit of a sad alternative) or go abroad on holidays. London is a fantastic place full of opportunities, it just needs to match your own requirements. Biased review - well yeah, I mean it is my site. What you are supporting is an idea that the UK needs to stand alone economically, which is a cute idea yet impossible (because not even you support yourself and need help earning money) -- and you also support vile, and viscous ideas of THE OTHER, of xenophobia, and of racism, and hatred, and UKIP, all of which started talks of Brexit. There are many wonderful things that I love about the British culture and I am glad that I spent a chunk of my childhood there, but there are also many aspects that repel me and that I even find quite appalling. Culture, craft, innovative ideas are bought from elsewhere in the world because the UK can afford it, but cannot create it itself. Is there an article of apology that I have missed? I know many foreigners who are happy in the UK and live well. It's beautiful that your kids can go to Hungary and learn the language, or visit Romania and learn how to cook traditional meals. Thank you for posting this. The food is good in places if you know where to eat. The Oxford English Dictionary defines "chav" as a "young person from the working class, usually without a high level of education." In 2004, it was announced as the Oxford Languages "Word of the Year" and entered the mainstream, appearing in documentaries and television shows. Thank you for addressing that question bravely, truthfully and directly and may you and your partner have lots of luck and joy in finding your place in this world. I have seen both. From Little Britain's Vicky Pollard to the demonization of Jade Goody, media and politicians alike dismiss as feckless, criminalized and ignorant a vast, underprivileged swathe of society whose members have become stereotyped by one, hate-filled word: chavs. [9][10] By 2005 the term had become widespread in its use as to refer to a type of anti-social, uncultured youth, who wear excessive flashy jewellery, white athletic shoes, baseball caps, and sham designer clothes. That is very sweet of you. Unlike many others, we understand the importance of being part of the EU. And you know what? Public transport is expensive in the UK, but it is because our planning laws are tough and protect the delicate environment here and peoples wishes. Sure there are a few who give a bad name to people coming here to live, a few who are just in it for the benefits. Is thr UK a good place to live? As a former UK resident, I understand your position. I respect your opinion. You're so much better than those who dared to vote Leave or god forbid for Trump, aren't you? Anyone who moans about food options in the modern UK must be very, very insular and live in a little bubble or is a spoiled idiot with myopia. I live in the UK right now (Scotland), but I'm not a citizen. This along with the supposed 1 million violent crimes committed due to alcohol per year and the 25% increase in liver diseases, suggests we can't handle our drink either. Someone is always in a hurry. As a small island, the UK has and will always be expensive, but this is the same as all other developed small islands, Iceland, Bahamas, Singapore, New Zealand etc. It is used in envy by the lily livered, privileged, pale, besuited bank clerk who sees people dressed up to the nines and going to the West End." It's no. Following university and moving into our careers, my wife and I have both enjoyed the fruits of our labour with work. Remembering that quote by Edmond Burke: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men and women to do nothing.". After the Brexit vote, people started attacking immigrants, and even immigrant looking Brits. An interesting article, but you lost my respect as soon as you wrote this: I would probably live there for a few years, but ultimately, would need a bit more sunshine. In the UK people say: "Not bad", which is true, it's not bad here, but it's certainly not "awesome" or "great" and we live once, and we are clever international people. The problem with Britain is that it bends over backwards too much, and does not do enough - paradoxically, at the same time. Get a grip! I was born there and had to put up with the place for forty years. In addition, I think there are other significant and perhaps more substantial factors that are playing into this hostility, namely, the rise of religious fanaticism, fundamentalism and its debate in Britain. I have been to over 85 countries, so I have some context. The UK blows fat d*ck in all aspects. I hope you find true peace and happiness. AHEAD of Sweden, Germany or Japan. Hi, I can see what you mean in your article. Thank you so much for your heartfelt message. If that happened in the UK, there would be an international outcry. It sounds like it, my friend. I couldn't agree more. It's not all political jibber jabber lies, it's equations and facts! Not for Muslims it isnt. Once you move from home and truly settle somewhere else, there is no real home anymore. So, I can fully understand your decision to move away. It was a strange experience. :). It's just crap and I don't want to live under those conditions. Are used to see my country as a liberal looking and pleasant place. WOW. Saying that, UK has a huge potential to rebound when it breaks away from the limpets in power sucking its tits off. The British are tolerant. But there's always hope. We are excited to have started our adventure, and we don't regret leaving the UK. Brexit was and will continue to be a mistake. 02/05/2012 12:25pm BST. Your comment deserved a huge round of applause. I used to think most of my life that happiness was found in places and thought that running to a foreign country would help me deal with my feelings of unfulfillment but it never did. Another of my favorite things of England are the diversity that you can see on in the people who lives her. 2. I've been trying to move to the UK for years but as an "immigrant" from the US, the Tier2 visa rules have prevented me from doing so. Honestly its all in how you phrase it, lovely. indeed. We're also seeing increasing radicalisation in right wing politics because this process is a feedback loop. And we've come to the conclusion, that there's no place like home.. I was a covard and I even lied to myself for a good 3 years before that. We've left again. The weather is better but their governments are destroying both. The one that had the vote or the ones that didnt get the chance? There is no way you had to give up Indian citizenship. But this is something new. We are all different and I hope that what didn't work for me, will be excellent for you. The one that had the vote or the ones that didnt get the chance? When I first came to the country, I said to my British friend. The non-whites you do have in YOUR government are actively working against their own people's interests (Patel and Sunak come to mind) and they are highly xenophobic. I think people come to the UK and expect a paradise. Brexit will force the country not to depend on London, but doesn't UK import a lot of their produce from Spain to start with? And thank you for contributing to British society and taxes :). We've just moved to the UK and we're loving it so far, though we are probably still doe-eyed and innocent about it all. Romanian and other Balkan foods are perfect mixes of Turkish, Greek, German and other Eastern European countries such as Russia, Poland, and so on. I am now back in the UK as a 24 year old business undergrad, sacrificing the next 3+ years of my life in order to obtain a degree and hopefully get sponsored and immigrate to Aus/Nz. People now are insular and small minded, dogmatic and unfriendly. We saved Europe from Nazis and agreed to defend Europe unconditionally after Brexit. Rain makes this country green heaven, which is ideal for keeping those beautiful rolling hills everyone loves. You've explained very honestly what I've been feeling for some time now - I'm now in a position where I feel that the values of my birthplace no longer align with my own. Wasn't uni education free at one point? Why would you think the UK ought to be like Communist Hungry or Caucesescu Romania? I'm already considering buying an apartment in Tenerife - a true paradise of sunshine (good climate, great food, low cost of living). Hi Morgan. If that happened in the UK, there would be an international outcry. Its a hard working and ambitious country, which is not for everyone. May is freezing! James, why don't you blame your country's class system and people like Tom Hiddleston and Clara DeLavigne who get jobs, and fame in Hollywood, and volunteering opportunities instead of immigration? British culture is now 'whatevers' and to even have any expectations or respect is 'right wing' or some sort of phobia or ism. Can you imagine that? Which one would you pick for your next trip? Well, England has gotten less safe because of the mass invasion of fighting age males from overpopulated Muslim countries. No school for my kids.. All too expensive. Yes, I disagree with Brexit, but that is the nature of democracy. Iceland is meant to be a very expensive place to live but in Reykjavik I worked 30 hours a week in a minimum wage job, payed my rent, bills, transport and food and still had more than half of my wages left over! I worked hard, I had some great opportunities and despite being born in another country, I am very grateful for all the opportunities the UK has given me. I remember went to a restaurant asking for water(with an American accent) and the guy at work corrected me with British accent. We have plenty of black and Muslim politicians in the UK, and other EU countries have hardly any. It's fab that you can learn so much because we have open borders. I know it's unusual for you to grasp that. But there are a damnsight more British born citizens abusing the system in the same way. This is before any deductions. The class system, the monopoly that the Royals hold and their ongoing theft of taxpayer funds while supported by the House of Frauds and their PR machine have destroyed the soul of the UK. Many Hong Kongers went to Australia or Canada because both are seen as more economically and socially advanced - and yes, multicultural (the UK is a bore on diversity, go to South East Asia for that). To cut it short, I'm sad you're leaving for those reasons. Rent is ridiculously expensive and housing quality is despicable, I was shocked! I came back due to family, but Im itching to get the hell out of here and go travelling again, and head back to Australia. I was born and bred in England, and have travelled extensively but never lived outside of the UK, and I absolutely hate it here now. Ten mins of my life I'll never get back I am sorry to say. I hope you find a new place you will call home. Try to own more than one property in many countries and you will really feel the heat from the taxman. James, how much did university education cost before 2010? 'Chav' is a word that we heard all the time, like ten years ago! We have a long way to go before we can live in a borderless world, where are all welcome anywhere and everywhere. So anyone who voted leave has to live with the consequences of their actions and they have to ask them selves some pretty serious questions about the nature of their views and what they are rooted in. it was a very long sounding Greek name, and the expression on his face just changed as if to say "ohh no can't really do that" you know kind of wincing and shrugging sort of expression. Hector, the only reason why I decided to allow your comment on this page is to prove to my readers why some British people are in the state they are and why all immigrants are better off away from the UK. Look at the last 50 years of Britain and name a single big talented innovator in this market! You say your family is with you, if nothing else, I hope that offers you the comfort you need to have a decent life. He was an inspiration to us all. Thank you for writing this article, it is absolutely spot on and details my feelings on living in the UK to a tee. Mass immigration destroys societies, creates division and problems, immigration of few people and more controlled, where only the best can become English is what UK has to do. Cory is multilingual and an alumna from The University of Manchester. We both naturalised to become British citizens. We're spending 2017 living out of bags - currently in Portugal, soon heading to Morocco and Albania, the maybe Italy before SE Asia. Maybe surprising to you but I voted for Brexit.let me explain why because I promise you, 17 million of us are not uneducated racists who believe everything The Sun and the Daily Express writes. I have degrees in Business and Cyber Security. Complete and utter rubbish. In that 25yrs, my tropical island birth nation has gone from developing to now High Income status. I could not understand how you could be surrounded by millions of people yet feel so lonely. People always blame it on individuals and never on parties, politic beliefs or societies. According to CWJobs the average salary for Professional jobs in London is 52,500. We actually find it so much cheaper living here than back home in Melbourne, Australia though. How crazy is that! Then millions on new passports. 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