If Primerica will monitor message boards dont you think they would look at a quoting site if their product was being mentioned and quoted on the site? I wish I had the time to go through the numbers right now, but you all can check it for yourself. The word is getting out about Primerica and when you read message boards on the internet its not always as favorable as people try to make it seem. So To explain this Post since Michael is not getting his way he is going to place his fingers in his ears and say LALALALALA I cant hear you. AIG you need to prove terminal illness within 12 months. Its not about the products. How many middle americans are going to need a trust? Just wanted to clarify my thoughts as I also like to state facts. Guarantee is good, converting is bad. Commercial Mortgage Or that since they do annual FNA, that my accounts are not being managed? Regarding other comments about getting paid higher elsewhere, I wouldnt doubt that. Im not going to rush out and harass my friends and family and get a bunch of appointments even if thats what Im told I need to do 15-20 appts in the first 30 days. Why not? Primerica has no loyalty towards you they will do whats in the best interest of the company as you should do whats in the best interest of you and yours. That is great. Im an RVP with Primerica. They are sold on the concept of Buy term And Invest The Difference. Primerica Life or the agent will be entitled to recover reasonable attorneys fees and other expenses incurred in the proceeding. They then take this $500 and show them how to make good use of it by investing in mutual funds for retirement, saving for college, etc. Pulling from a magazine that ties to the industry you are selling is not a good source. > I ask because, though I am educated (two B.A.s and an M.A. New York Life I think the cost is $99.00.. If you fail to remember Travelers had cash Value products also. But you can attack here without punishment and get away with it. NOthing that means more of his commissions go to his family. Why do they charge for brochures? Its about pushing their own product period. Merill and Citi both agree to take care of the small buyers that have been hurt by someone the mis-statements. Look you cannot seriously dismiss DI with that i got it from my job thing, Since you are condesending, I guess the truth must be getting you. Do not want to be seconded guessed about your decision to buy term. I know I would not want to have to do, 6,000 dollars in premium and barely breaking even. Some think there is a good reason to get max amounts of term.. Now I didnt say everyone, I said some people. One tool is the FNA. Give us facts we can verify. You do it like this. I wonder what fantasy land do you life in. We do not hold obligatory allegiances beyond common sense. She did 18 months later. Yes, some people swear by it because they ended up better off then they were before Primerica and thought that they WERE helped, but thats only becuase they didnt realize that they would have been even better off doing things the right way, and because they didnt know that they could do the same thing for themselves without taking out a loan or buying financial products from Primerica. There has been considerable discussion of life insurance on this blog and how Primericas product isnt competitive do to its price. I dont know Michael, but I know the difference between being captive and independent. Vaccinations, counseling to change high-risk behaviors, and sometimes chemoprevention are types of primary prevention. If one was to read your posts, they would find you very Untruthful. I wont even attempt to comment on your race analogy. They hire, train and recruit. Sometimes people later in life develope health issues or life has just thrown them a curve.. I do not nor do I admit to selling products to clients that are not good for them. Every Competent adviser says to do that. But then again anything to sell the policy. . I cant afford school nor do I have the time for it. One day they will come across another person who is also working part-time but as an independent agent. Primerica is (was) the same for you as it is for Doug Hartman. I am sorry why would I pay the state more so I can have a title. I was not restricted to only sell or repair one brand. Wall Street Journal is a good source. Makes you wonder when they find time to take care of their clients. If you cant back up your post with facts then get off the ROP kick. Who are you serving, your pocket book or your client? *****1. Since most middle America families do not have money to gamble with in the stock market, they need to have a somewhat safer place to put it. First you said that you should leave it in the hands of the client. I never worked for them however I did talk to them about being employed there. I work at a restaurant right now, and the money is good, while going to school. Everyone can see that Tom is like that snake oil salesperson and provides us with a very nice dog and pony show. Since you go by price, the next guy that is cheaper will take them away. They do not suggest anything that will not work out. Remember the Grasshopper and the Ants. You sound more like the Guy saying AIG is the best thing since Whitebread. Ok here we can talk. Following termination of this Agreement, this provision will be limited to prohibiting your soliciting, directly or indirectly, Primerica Life insurance purchasers only when all four of the following additional criteria are met: Thanks for the laughs and by all means, please post again. The RVP that had 4 agents selling away, did not get into trouble. And what the heck is that part about paying $100 to earn loan commissions??? When you die you do not get it. The client can always say NO Thank YOU. They say he is an independent contractor paid on a 1099. And Since you are harping on recruiting, ever sales is a recruiting pitch. Again You are confusing someone that sells. A client who had limited funds asked if I was giving her the best coverage available. Tom, you said, Funny you have been doing this for months now. Find them and post them. Which brings up another question. I also have the ability to make triple the amount of income of your typical financial planneroh and did I mention all the great perks of passive income? Im not all about the money. Some people pay for service. Look what it si doing now, it has to borrow billions to stay in business. Are the policies the same for Me and Women? Taking the entire amount for burial and having fun before the client dies, will destroy the family. From his business ethics I hope that he is on salary not commission because he must go hungry. Mr Thomas: please dont inform the PFS people about the renewals they may be missing out on with a disability or Long Term Care Sale. Primerica is not for everyone. Sure my RVP pays something but he doesnt charge me a cover fee to sit in his office and watch also. I am not upset that you are with PFS. I am more of man than you will ever be. Its a contract. Would Jesus even be associated with a company that did the wrong thing for people they are to serve?. They cut 10 years and a couple hundred thousands dollars off their home loan. 2. So one office out of hundreds is caught making a mistake. Because of that my father-in-law stopped working for Primerica and we know have all our investments with Edward Jones. . He did know about it, but he said they were a rip off. You talk about ROP, Term, and cash valve policies. They know what is out there and have been approached. It was bad enough trying to figure out what you meant with out the misspellings. In a terminal situation there may be other expenses especially if there are LTC cost without a LTC policy. The money business is the most highly regulated industry on earth. Since Citi the parent company has been selling its different departments for lack of a better word, it is now called Citi. The client then gets a letter saying you need to pay usually 100 to 500% more for the same insurance or lose it. . . They prove he has to lie, cheat and steal, to make a living. Williams was sold once before and stock went through the roof. On a personal note I dont have any financial knowledge, but in the few weeks of attending training classes Ive learned many things in a way I can understand them. I tell my sales staff, do not be an unpaid consultant. If he shows me by invest $50 a month, my child can have over 100,00 dollars for college, that is a value. I find it interesting that I used facts and you attacked me with heresay and oppinion. He has to work 3 to 8 hours jsut to make the same money in one hour. Shows you a way to get out of debt, which most of the other plans will not touch. Im not here to say do not join Primerica , Im just saying there are better It is showing you have limited vocabulary yourself.) . Who likes to see the ass kisser get the good assignments? I was skeptical at first, but I had to change my way of thinking. because this sounds so much like the pamphlet an agent tried to use to show that Primerica was not what it says it was. These agents or just plain employee mindset people dont know anything about building a business or company from scratch or even their own client base because it was given to them by the former agency maintainer. Your just building for someone else. Before you start saying that the opportunity is a bad thing, you might want to investigate it further. You also get different levels of charging: Level 1, Level 2 and Level 3. WMA had to close down, but then they jsut created WFG. The opposite of trying to succeed is staying complacent. If you did not, then how do expect to meet a full-time person? *****I do hope I have shown you the many flaws in your plan. That doesnt make any sense at all. Since you are talking about converting, this is what my friend had done to him. Do you think they would allow him to do that if he had any problems. Cash valve does not belong to the client; it belongs to the insurance company. Im very interested in this industry and would like a career in it. 7 Reasons You Should Review Your Life Insurance Policy, My New Favorite Money-Saving Strategy That You Aren't Using. *that was supposed to say from under 1 mill a year to over 1 mill a year. I had some guy pick-off my resume on CareerBuilder and I was able to trace him to Primerica. The $99 fee covers your Life insurance class, books, etc. (The people he had trained.) But ultimately He does the increase. Could it be that the company has a great model, and knows how to service the clients. Which one do you want to have? . Term is cheapest in the beginning, as you get older it and have quote run it will be more expensive. When are you going to get back on the what this Board is about? It is difficult, because of the do not call list, but then again, Primerica is not for those that quit easily. Now do you knwo anyone else that does this? The market that Primerica goes after is not the rich, and it is not the poor. Well You are wrong again. Thanks for stopping by it is always good to listen when God has something to say I was just surprised to see that it was on the Primerica post. Marketing. So I went to office location, it was there garage. , Its has better ratings (AM Best, Moody, S&P): How many hierarchy levels are in the organization? Primerica is audited by the states to make sure its reps are licensed and are practicing good business. As for your terminal examples its just an option. I am a business owner, that trains sales people. WebThe Best Types of Assisted Living Programs for Different Levels of Cognitive Impairment. As for being cheaper it has to be since it lacks value. Yes you might have been but it has been almost a decade. The Securites arm of Primerica was ALWAYS looking into more sound investments and kept us informed when changes to our family of funds was in the works. Confidential information includes, among other things, customer lists, agent information, policy coverage and expiration data, and investment account information. You are trusting them with your money, and your family lively hood(Life insurance). Saying I was not told this, or that. They have no way of making you accountable for your words. This is something every salesperson has to do. Or how about all the other things I have caught you lying about. You said: OF COURSE how I feel about PFS is relevant!!! having to go through company qualifications/guidelines for ownership and restrictions on outside employment?? When I called my agent and told him he wanted to do the refinance, but he had showed him not to, I was surprised. Hey all. If you were an agent knowing what you know now, could you with a good conscience hand a beneficiary a check for $250,000 know they could have been getting $325,000 if you just shared some information with them? Michael knows if he did this stuff across the kitchen table he would be laughed out of house. Primericas financial services are competitive. If i remember correctly PFS has unisex rates. By the way even though we are less expensive than most great service and value oriented companies. By your calculations, they should discriminate against balck males since they have the highest mortality rates. I mean if you were a professional you would attack the posts. They have done several different loans. An example of companies that did not do this is WMA/WFG. So why must you use Life insurance as a Long term Care policy? In my opinion I believe that we insurance agents have a moral obligation to actually give the client the best service and products available and if you can only sell one product its had to be competative. Gideon the Financial services industry is a great industry to be in. Their ratings dropped twice on fitchratings.com and the outlook is listed negative. ( Since it is more it is better, or do you think getting less for more money is a great idea, James?). I am curious, what do you do when you clients cancel to get a better price. Look at the Indy Bank scandal, and the S & L scandal. This is basic business teaching. Let me just say this. As for LTD, policies outside work cost considerable more and do not cover as much. Again you must know your products and explain them to your clients. Someone that can sell his plan, is one of the above people. IF I give up 10,000 leg, and get 3 to 4 legs in exchange, I am up 20,000 to 30,000. Primerica is NOT a scam, in the legal sense. Someone will always come in and beat you. Prime America with its own ticker symbol? You may know somethings about them, but just like the saying A little knowledge can be dangerous. You prove that you are dangerous. Term is not the same just like Full Coverage is not the same. 2. NOw what do you get for the $99. Thats the way to make the big bucks at PFS, get there first because in many times in your target market no one else has talked to the client. My priority was church, so I did not take the 3-4 hours 3 nights a week my upline encouraged to commit for me to build a solid part-time job with Primerica. Then to have ownership of their code, they have qualifications. If you start a business that is not? Now, lets pick Dell. You build up a strong leg and give it up so you can do the same? Im going to school for an Environmental Science (Extended) Degree in Denver CO. The P320 has evolved to include steel-framed models, such as the AXG Scorpion pictured above. if the new owner does not disband the train and sell to re-insurers. You say Primerica is great, but you wouldnt want to do business with a part-time person without an office. This is a Christian blog. The trainer guy was telling me that the most common professions people came from, were law enforcement, construction and teaching. (But you are on a mission) I went home and told my parents (negative from the frist mention of Primerica) But Im a question asker and I demand actual evidence to back up claims that people make Im like a lawyer as far as needing info goes-thats why at 6 after an IQ test I was told I should be a lawyerlol- and nothing that they said made sense or had any merit. As for the 900K earner we know that income does come from production of a team of agents. Remember this if the client is always looking at the cheaper price, the next guy will be able to take them from you. DId you know that most of Primeirca clients will not be facing foreclosure, or have to modify their loans. a) I would have lost all this at PFS. Business week, TIME, etc. If you sell on value, then price really does not matter. If you are you are giving the opportunity to choose from multiple companies (non-captive) you can truly advise and recommend the best product for your client. It is also depends on the race too. that costs MORE than ROP. Until Primerica came on the scene, term was sold as an after thought. I do not start a savings account to have the bank take it from me. That is one of the key things. Hit that recruits warm market because they are probably going to quit anyway. This time you run the numbers and you tell me who is cheaper. You do not get to keep the extra money as a savings plan. Doing so means that you will lose the client. Heres something to consider. There is a reason why PFS or any other company price their products the way they do. I will now call myself James S. I was just expressing my experience with someone who gained my interest in the financial planning field. Who is attacking who. Truth be told it is definitely not for everyone, but if it is a fit for YOU and your situationno one can assess that but YOU. 3. It is called a buyers market. Do you work for a Contractor in the Business of Ac Repair? Just remember NBIP (nothing personal in business). Hes entirely wrong. Its policy design. non-guaranteed level premium beyond 20 years? If you were a client, which would you choose? Yes they did sell us, but they were with my Step-mom all the way. This is a new company Michael. Car insurance will not cover your house buring down. They can offer the same and more products and then if they so choose sign on with Prepaid Legal directly and build up a client base with and get paid an initial commission and possible residual income that can pay them for years. Life insurance is not supposed to be used for health issues, but replacing the income. I told them and they seemed very angered about another rep trying to recruit me, statint that their system was much better than the other RVP. That is not the same as a CEO or owner of a S or C corp. In this case the premium is deducted from the policy cash value monthly, which rapidly depletes it since the interest cannot keep up with the automatic withdrawals and ultimately once depleted the policy owner must resume making payments. You can do a better and cheaper job using other items. They also use term as a loss leader, to get you as a client, and then they can call and mail you unlimitlessly. And there are people that are in other business, that have a conflict of interest. There must be some of these things on the internet. First, It is no longer called CitiGroup, it is just Citi. Now I have seen the numbers for your areas, did you know that all the RVPs have grown, and they have created 50 new RVPS in the last 3 years. Just because the financial products have a so-called good quote does not mean its a good product. When they talk I pull up a chair, I take notes and I follow their instructions. Some of my customers will buy from me because of the value I have given them, either percieved or real. I checked the internet pricing searching multiple providers and the cheapest I could find was only $4 cheaper per month. Thats not the issue. Williams. James did a very good job refuting toms silly claims. Which brings up another question. World Financial Group is a Transamerica-owned company that sells financial planning services, such as savings, insurance, and retirement products. Some are guaranteed so he can keep it. I do understand some people like their current occupation or have other career goals. Do you not have an income-earning opportunity to offer? Both are cars. It is the term I keep seeing. So why do you need income protection when you do not need it. I usual;y bring my struggling sales people with me. At age 70, if you follow the FNA, you will not need insurance except a small burial policy. Thats corporate America(by the way, this is a very well respected company). Term, and you said Term is sold as a loss leader and you said IT (Its)(First, please use spell check. So Primerica not special with that. . As we know death is a guaranteed event and Term pays out about 3% of the time. Representatives are compensated through commissions or referral fees on the sale of financial products offered by the financial product companies they represent. You say AIG is a great company to buy term from, correct? They say its a forced savings plan. Then there may be hope for you yet. purpose? I mean why not put up or shut up. Does he say anything different than what other advisers say, not really. macg have you ever heard of Senior Settlements? Remember how they let their other businesses call them, so they may not make as much but they make more on the name in a list. do you do a lot of VA business? This is about the opportunity. Most importantly, care levels are dictated by the amount of help a person needs to complete activities of daily living, or ADLs. Sure theres other cheaper term out thereTHIS SO CALLED BROTHER COULD HAVE OFFERED HIS OWN FAMILY MEMBERS THAT.but guess what? IF you do not think so, then look up the owners of the stock. Just ask any Mobster. SESAME STREET ECONOMICS 1 If you are only licensed as a life insurance agent and a mutual funds representative and you believe you can take a wholestic financial planning approach you are wrong. [CDATA[ google_ad_client = "pub-0751974658121276";/* CPF 250x250 in content serp */google_ad_slot = "2853593088";google_ad_width = 250;google_ad_height = 250; // ]]> The reason they can hire anyone is because they have a computer program that does the advising for them. Also if you cant do a simple thing like spell check, how can you expect to handle anything bigger than the coffee for the office job. Coke vs Pepsi test. I find that most of their agents are strongly indoctrinated to actually beleive anything their VP tells them no matter how far fetched it may be. 5. Since most of the people that post here are their competition, and say being independent is so great, they say it because they do not want the competition. Investments may vary based on the persons risk evaluation. 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