But they are all liars? Ill leave it to you to decide if the jihadist with the cash in hand played a part in influencing Voris to reinvent himself. Grega's departure from the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter could have been given. Berg, Superior General of the FSSP, to be the new District Superior of North America, effective July 13, 2015. Denton, NE (Seminary) I too have been heartbroken by M Voris recent rants against the SSPX and have diverted my financial support to Harvesting the Fruit. I think they wanted an experienced priest to help Fr. From Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda: I was notified Friday, November 8 that Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was recalled from his assignment as pastor of the Church of All Saints in Minneapolis by his religious community, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. There is a schismatic attitude in the fact of consecrating bishops without pontifical mandate. Providence, RI Sure, we believe in what the Church proposes for us to believe because it comes from Jesus Christ, but that needs to penetrate more deeply and be pulled in from its ethereal orbit around our souls. After being established, North American Martyrs Parish offered its Masses at St. Alphonsus Parish in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle, with the exception of a single Low Mass every Sunday at Holyrood Cemetery in Shoreline. This takes a toll on an aging trad & many times that is apparent. When making comments please consider that there is a tsunami of baptized Catholics following us who dont have the foggiest idea of what is going on in the Church, and that popular blogs no matter what their angle may be the platform they have to grasp the issues. We here at Church Militant have one concern here: Despite stupid claims that we are doing this for money, we are concerned about the souls of our fellow Catholics. Pequannock, NJ Pastor of Queen of the Holy Rosary in Vienna. Third Street - Evansville, IN 47708 Mass Time: 3rd Sun 9 am Phone number: (812) 422-5150 Priest: Fr Gene Vogler. Lol.it wont be happening my friend. ***The aforementioned Catholics do not include the SSPX, who fit into a seperate category, not to be further delineated here, not bc it's complicated-it's not. Im the same age as the Pope but even Fr. When Pope John Paul II had the Assisi meeting Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded with the good Cardinals like Siri and Oddi to make a public protest to defend the honor of the Church. Saguto, FSSP is the District Superior for the North American District of the Fraternity of St. Peter, and gives retreats, conferences, and days of reflection across the country. The clerics involved in the taken down of Fisher Moore College and these many attacks on the SSPX need to seek out an exorcist. Gerard Saguto, FSSP, and the liturgical artist, Mr. Paul Sirba. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. Over 160 bishops in your country and 6 in mine, along with dozens of others around the world have invited this Society of St. Peter into their diocese. 5: The real truth of the matter is that some of them are not doing or saying what piokolby wants them to do or say. God bless. Fort Wayne, IN We wait for the coming of the Son of God-made-Man, the focal point of all history, the only God there is, born to hang on a Cross and redeem us from our sins. Thomas Paprocki. If Catholics do not like these attacks on the SSPX your beef is with the FSSP and its superiors. Ad Orientem: Why is the Mass Celebrated Facing East? Calgary, AB Will the FSSP tell Voris PUBLICLY that he does not have permission to use FSSP sermons in his attacks on other Catholics in print or in audio and that his view that the SSPX is in schism is not the OFFICIAL position of the FSSP? More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. Nothing more and probably less. http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/1974_declaration_of_archbishop_lefebvre.htm, A really good film about todays saint St Joseph of Cupertino well worth a watch May Our Lord reward you for your great defense of the Faith and holy priests, EVERYWHERE!! Questions: St. Catharines, ON Edmonton, AB St. Catharines, ON Father John Marcus Berg, F.S.S.P. Priestly Fraternity of St, Peter (FSSP) poses a whole slew of ecclesiological, doctrinal and moral problems. Congrats. I think that for piety, for love of Our Lord, and for love of the Holy Father (no matter how bad he is), we ought to publicly resist his errors based on the previous Popes throughout history. Indeed, contrary to what some may hear about us, we sedevacantists in reality live amidst other Catholics in peace & gracious commaraderie. First of all everything said about Fr. Saguto is an excellent priest but he needs to stop perpetuating this lie and he needs to order his priests to do the same. Our only fault is that we have not taken this position. Full communion is a VC2 heresy. For this reason Catholics must be wary of them. Whatever happens in October affects not Holy Mother Church. I remember every word and it is my expectation that Father Wolfe will find someone else to host all the sermons he has been preaching but have not been posted publicly since the sad split with Audio Sancto. For the person who knows that the Council is a grave danger to the faith, they have no problem advising against them allowing themselves (and their kids) to be formed in an FSSP parish since we have an obligation to engage those things that threaten to lead us away from the faith. Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? Love your enemies, be good to those who hate you is not a suggestion. Liturgical Guides to the Seasons You have inaccurately classified & also inaccurately defined the sedevacantist position. As , albeit indirectly, pointed out in a discussion with my2cents below, trads have 2 things in common: they love the so called latin mass & they revile sedevacantists. Rev. Anyone who reads Louies blog should, by now, have developed an awareness of the dismal state of affairs in the Church. No I didnt. Voris- shmoriswho cares? Whether or not they actually desire her destruction, or are simply operating in ignorance, is of no bearing on the present matter whatsoever. Your rash judgement I hope is based on ignorance and not malice. FSSP International OBITUARIES. Tyler, TX And whatever Kings responsibility (or lack thereof) for that, you can hardly blame Olson of the Mater Dei priests for that state of affairs. FSSP Missions The obituary was featured in Newsday on June 14, 2009. If we know of loved ones who have wandered, ask the same for them, that they begin to sense the obvious need for the Church and the Sacraments, particularly Holy Communion and confession. But just bc it ought to be further delineatd in that separate category for clarity which would take a minute. The problems with the FSSP are doctrinal: I suggest you show more charity to Catholics. There are some whose position gives them the duty to point out faults. The Missive. Either way . The pope has no authority to bind anyone to that which goes against the Catholic faith. The fact that he has since set up an FSSP parish doesnt really fully redress that injustice, to my mind. This is part of a much longer and laborious dissertation on obedience that has all the markings of an Epistle from Terry Carroll to Ferndale. Fr. http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm. Go back to them. than we do. Did the FSSP help the SSPX in this injustice? Following post talks about SSPX censorship of sermon criticizing Francis: Voris has so applied his intellect. The evidence is all around us. Clarkdale, AZ God bless you both and pray for me. They accept the council and while there are priests that personally may object even tell certain parishiners this or that they have by joining one of these groups accepted romes position that the second vatican council is part of the church and tradition. Rules or commands should be in play, and they need to be, but these are not what are supposed to define the home. His last day at Mater Dei was 8/30/2015. Fr. Vancouver, BC This means that love is the basis of being a member of the Church, as it is supposed to be the basis of being a member of a home. Perhaps bc of those such as yourself who have been poorly & even cruelly treated by a sedevacantist somewhere along the line, some proceed to make vast generalizations. Home Base - Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter Home Base by Fr. . Liars and cowards is what the two I spoke to wereand one was the former head of the order here in America. So I hope we can say that we whole heartedly agree that such warm discourse between sedevacanists & Catholics who oppose is the way not only that it should be, but it is the way we are called to be. Joliet, IL Opus dei (small d) is the lace connecting all the dots of the CMTV operation that not many people appear to be willing to look into. The Radical Catholic blog has confirmed from CMTV that Voris and CMTV plagiarized the sermon of a Priest of the FSSP in his attack on the SSPX. Hes been reassigned to be the parochial vicar at St. Joseph, the FSSP parish in Tyler, Texas. I had already decided (in agreement with you) to stay away from CMTV and T. Marshall. http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/truth-about-the-sspx-mc-similar-groups/#.VfzYaN9VhBc. It does not matter whether folks think that those Dimond Bros. are fanatics or anything else they may think. I dont mean to be evasive, but thats all I can say in justice. Yes Archbishop Lefebvre wouldnt be disobedient unless it was to protect the Faith. The Church is a home, and that is because it begins with a Person, Jesus Christ, true God and true Man. Springdale, AR Servant of our lady i looked at your two links and read them again. We hold that the religion borne of VII is not the Catholic religion, but a non-Catholic Sect, of which Bergoglio is now the head. Dallas, TX Thanks for the levity. There are valid consecrations within masses said by schismatics. It has been my experience time and again that fellow Trads, who later support the sedevacantist position, want nothing to do with family or friends who do not take this position. FSSP NA on YouTube I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm heh-heh, point taken! http://youtu.be/S_vwwajyASI. Sacramento, CA Naples, FL General Chaplain Father Stefan Reiner. (I also think Drumms defense of the Dudley affair is unpersuasive. Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. Youre free to believe so if youd like, but I dont. This is my weak attempt at trying to make things easier for new readers etc to understand the different positions. No, Cardinal Castrillon de Hoyos said as much with respect to the SSPX when he said: We are not confronted with a heresy. Presumably because (generally speaking) the FSSP priests avoid directly criticizing the dangers inherent in the new Mass and the Council (as Voris once did) as well as the words and deeds of the pope. It was also taken in response to related concerns that Father Saguto had failed to observe the safe environment protocols of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for interaction with minors (e.g. I hope Catholics will be protected from those responsible. A group like CMRI *does* accept those consequences, quite readily; they are not bothering to depend on any bishops but their own for their apostolates. The threats certainly have increased in intensity in recent years; even the lukewarm Christian can sense this and perhaps feels the need to join in the resistance and push back. Faith is a gift. The second item is that the correction is desired, and the recipient is open to the correction. John 10:11], http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1870-will-you-die-for-him-a-sermon-on-the-eve-of-persecution-in-america, (3) SSPX now that it is wanting to be in full communion w/heretics is pretty silent itself. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. Louie does a fine job of using his layman status in the correct way, although he steps over the line on occasion. hi, Servant of Our Lady, All of us have a duties as Catholics. That neighbor would include jews, mohammedans, shintoists, hindus, etc. The Morning of Recollection will be open to all men including non-parishioners and will include a conference by Fr. In this, Michael Voris protests too much. Heres the truth: The SSPX refuses to sign a statement saying the Vatican II is an integral part of the tradition of the Church. It is this to which they refuse to submit, not the legitimate authority of the pope. In all charity and respect to you, I want you to know that I did look at your video, but have noted that errors have been found with the modern-day Lazarus story. His first Mass in Seattle will be on Sunday, October 5th and it will be a sung Mass. Without Me, you can do nothing (Jn. But they are for the most part Catholic. This, for the love of God & the goal of conversion. I must admit, I am not a typical traditionalist but have read my way through hours of debate over the defense of tradition and have come across many resources, such as this forum, that have given me a formation that I wouldnt have guessed having even just 5 years ago while still assuming that I am even to this day light years away. Nicholson) with the SSPX marks him out as, Im afraid, something of a fanatic. Michael Matt interviewed him in Mexico recently, I believe. Allentown, PA For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. Sacramento, CA Post navigation Stop using deceptive language. Sunday Masses will . Montreal, QC Quincy, IL Bergoglio [as he likes to call himself] doesnt understand Tradition. Gerard Saguto (US District Superior) and Fr. addressed to TWN, Im pretty much thinking the same thing. May none of us ever become so prideful as to claim immunity. FSSP pastors are . Refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff by the Society can be seen in their refusal to reconcile and place themselves under the authority of the Vicar of Christ, rejecting his dogmatically defined full power of shepherding, ruling and governing the universal Church, a power ordinary and immediate over all the churches and over each and every member of the faithful.. French-speaking Chaplain Father Hubert Bizard. Fr. Any insight you can give regarding this reaction will be appreciated. I am not a follower of the Dimonds, may God forbid. He is EVIL. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. And it comes from the preaching of those who have received, along with their right of succession in the episcopate, the sure charism of truth. Their jurisdiction is supplied by cannon law because they beleive there is a state of emergency in the church because people are in danger of losing the catholic faith. 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