Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. And I know I totally get what youre talking about. After you guys. Both are true. And I know it was a battle. Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. And with that opening, I felt like it was confirmed. And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. This is the passage. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. And then you know, you would categorize these things. Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. Am I characterizing what happened there accurately? James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. Okay. You disseminated down to the elders, and then that became really the sticking point for James, wasnt it? Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. What what were you thinking? Hes a deceiver. pretty rotten.. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . Leslie said: Julie Roys is a Christian investigative reporter who has called out some big names, and she has suffered for it. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And we were at a stalemate. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. . James MacDonald. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. Just saying a lot of vile things. So if you cant say anything, I mean, again, hes dismissive of the actual letters. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. Thats what meeting and when youre in a conference called and youre making a decision like that, every elder everybody on the meeting on the call had to make right had the voice be asked any question you have. No, Im just reporting. But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. Shame on you for reading scripture! Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. One, its impossible, and were gonna get killed, were gonna get slaughtered on that. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. Yeah, I got sued, but the case got dropped. Good to be here. And you got all of them. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? Great! We had to deal with it. This man has been your pastor for decades. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. Tell me about that meeting and what he did. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). Church, Ministry News He knows! I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. Because when you report on this for months, you feel the pain of the people that are involved. And were talking about a private jet. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? Thank you. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. Thats a Tuesday night. So walk us through the drama of that weekend, James McDonald trying to save his job. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. . Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. So you werent part of the lawsuit. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. So that we could live in freedom. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. That way youll never miss an episode. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. Makes me sad and understand why his life went out of control. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. You could tell where it was headed probably. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? She gave it to me to get to the elders. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And I said, Listen, I get it. But, I dont believe I have ever heard anyone say in any of these posts, husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her. | (Photo: Harvest Bible Chapel video screen grab) Harvest Bible Chapel has dropped a lawsuit against author and journalist Julie Roys and the writers of the Elephant's Debt blog amid public scrutiny for an alleged culture of fear, intimidation, and financial mismanagement. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. The airing accelerated the timeline. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. Thank you for taking the stand that you did. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Okay thats what Gods word says. Then pray for all of us. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. But I knew I needed to do it. In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot and the men were the ones being abused we might hear them singing a different tune. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. So its critically important that the truth be told. It does. Can you share what was in it? And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. She keeps demanding I tithe to her and she will ask god to bless me. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. What does the bible say about that? And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. Im not positive on that. I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. I was thrown out of the church we gave our lives to by a group of rogue leaders, MacDonald writes. The Asbury Revival Is Over. Visconti wins the Internet! I payed for you and James. And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. Yes, it is. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! I pray for the man. It wasnt an argument. And why do you do it in front of everybody? Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. The headlines really heated up after the December 2018 publication of "Hard Times at Harvest," a lengthy expos by investigative journalist Julie Roys. Im Julie Roys. I didnt, I didnt argue with him. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. I have them up at my website if you want to see those. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. And you have James McDonald coming in, from the United States, getting off the plane for a little bit, doing a few meetings, which I guess he complained about doing. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Yeah. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. That was you, wasnt it? And this wasnt a one time thing. None of my sources said it was wrong. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. I shouldnt be doing this. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. That was positioned as an attack from the start. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. Wives submit to your husbands. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of God, and Proverbs, etc. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? Marin, To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. Im sad for his fall. I dont know whether its the way way down or the way back Id have to reread the letter, but I mean, they stopped and went to the DR,. To myself, I said, and do our job. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. Can you say what was in that letter? You cant unconditionally support anybody. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. You are Julie. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Gary, Im gonna put it up on my Facebook page, on my blog. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. Christians should stop feeding these people. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. @jamesmacdonald. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. Still. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. And so I felt relief. Who were all shameless self promoters. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. What I especially find troubling is this: How come nobody has talked about the false doctrines that MacDonald has been preaching??? May 19, 2021 10:53 am To some former Harvest Bible Chapel insiders, Rick Donald was not just James MacDonald's right-hand man; he was also his "hatchet man" or "smiling assassin." Load more The Asbury Revival Is Over. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. And this is when everything really started happening. . It was a Wednesday or Thursday night on the Rolling Meadows campus. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. She said a survey of 20,000 women for her book, The Great Sex Rescue, found that when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. I wish Id never done it. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. to Rick Donald. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? The devil is at work. And it was a pretty tough meeting. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. And we talk about that Scripture and quote it over and over again. He scared me in bible college I wanted nothing to do with him. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. The senior pastor at my church moved into town in 2014, and bought a home in proximity to the church for $260,000. He is not a pastor. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. And the things that were done to them after they left. How about it James McDonald and John MacArthur (and the like), how about it? The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. This is James said what he said. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And had those letters not reach the board, its hard to say where James McDonald would be today. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. We will talk through it. But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . . To donate, James MacDonald Ministries June 13, 2021 Email, Ed Stetzer Named Dean of Biola Universitys Talbot School of Theology, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Landon MacDonald to Lead Arizona Megachurch Despite Allegations of Abuse When at Harvest Bible Chapel, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. And I got it. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. That this wasnt just James failure. You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. I just thought, yeah. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. Like, I cant believe this. I wish I didnt. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. . James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. This was a many time thing. I knew I had to do it. Divorce sadly acknowledges the truth. SMH. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! Chicago-area Republic Bank has stopped foreclosure proceedings against disgraced celebrity preacher, James MacDonald, and reinstated MacDonald's mortgage on his $1.5 million Elgin estate. So were in the meeting. 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